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sabatig
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Posted Tuesday, August 31, 2010 @ 06:47 AM  

Hi all - quick question about carb ice in an RF3.

I seem to be getting it a lot recently, at the weekend I performed a decent from 4000ft to circuit height, doing periodic engine warms etc. but once in the circuit I am sure I had carb ice, and on the taxi back to hanger outside the hanger I could not get full power for about 10secs, only 2000-2100, held it full throttle like that and then a about 5-10 secs later developed full power.

If I had to go around on the landing I am sure it would not have developed full power. The day before in the hanger with the cowls off I could see ice begining to form after running with the cowls off for about 10mins, which I suppose is understandable as the warm air is escaping and not keeping carb warm.

Anyone have any flying tips that they find stops ice forming?

Gino

Donald
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Posted Tuesday, August 31, 2010 @ 08:34 AM  

Hi Gino,

I'm also in the UK with an RF3 but I've never had problems with carb ice. I have only once seen it during a ground run with the cowlings off and that was just a little skim of hoar frost on the butterfly. But I've also ground run extensively in very damp conditions with the cowlings off without it forming. What engine is in yours? Is it the stock 1200cc or maybe the 1400cc?

The obvious thing to check is that your baffles are effective so that what air ends up below the engine has been warmed.

Donald

sabatig
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Posted Tuesday, August 31, 2010 @ 09:24 AM  

Hi Donald, yes it is a stock 1200cc, i am sure it is ice, after 10 mins with the cowls off putting my hand on the outside of the inlet manifold where it joins the carb there was ice on that, (dont know what the inside of that looked like) I will check the baffles and make sure they are nice and tight to the cowling.

Perhaps I will just perform power on descents using airbrakes ensuring the engine remains warm throughout.

Bob Grimstead
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Posted Tuesday, August 31, 2010 @ 09:46 AM  

Hey Guys,

A quick tip.

On all airplanes it is bad practice to run your engine for any extended time without the cowlings in place.

No cowlings = no cooling (and of course no carb heat).

The eventual result of overheating can be a broken exhaust valve, or that the aluminium of your heads will change its structure, becoming soft. This allows valve guides to slip out of position, leading, like a broken exhaust valve, to complete engine failure.
The big problem is that such overheating does not usually cause these problems immediately, but a considerable time afterwards.

I have no idea how hot your engine needs to become, nor for how long you can get away with it, because it's something I only ever do if there is absolutely no other way, and then for the absolute minimim time.

As to carb icing, it has been mentioned elsewhere on this forum. I try to avoid it by making all prolonged descents with power still applied.
All you have to do is think ahead, and lower your nose to increase the airspeed and drag a few miles before you reach your destination.
This apples for all airplanes, not just Fourniers, and helps to prevent shock cooling too.
Think like a tug pilot.

Yours, Bob

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