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dannparks
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 Posted Saturday, February 26, 2011 @ 12:24 PM
This may seem like a simple question, but I am wondering for those who have installed a radio, where is the best place to put the headphone jacks?
There's not much room in the cockpit and lots of levers to interfere with headphone cables. Panel pictures show some jacks on the right of the panel -- which seems could interfere with the trim lever and gear handle. Some on the left side -- interfering with the throttle and spoiler handle. A few in the center.
Are some of you putting the jacks behind your head? How about down by the stick?
Any best-practice advice would be appreciated.
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Dann Parks • RF4D #4051 N2188 • now flying!
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Posted Saturday, February 26, 2011 @ 03:43 PM
Hi,
On the RF4 I have the jacks by my left hip. This helps keep the cord from the landing gear handle.
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Bob Grimstead
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Posted Monday, February 28, 2011 @ 06:15 AM
Hi Dann,
On my Aussie one I have the headphone plugs just behind my left ear, tucked out of the way around the corner of the lip of the luggage compartment.
That way I could also keep the headphone leads short (about 30 inches to three feet) so they're not flying all around the cockpit and getting tangled up during aerobatics.
The English one already had the jacks on the panel's lower left, and I could not be bothered to move them.
Yours, Bob
[Edit by Bob Grimstead on Monday, February 28, 2011 @ 06:30 AM]
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Flying and displaying Fournier RF4Ds VH-HDO and G-AWGN, building replica RF6B G-RFGB and custodian of RF6B prototype F-BPXV
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Bob Grimstead
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Posted Tuesday, March 15, 2011 @ 05:23 AM
Here you go Dann,
This is how the jacks are placed on my blue one.
Yours, Bob
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Flying and displaying Fournier RF4Ds VH-HDO and G-AWGN, building replica RF6B G-RFGB and custodian of RF6B prototype F-BPXV
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dannparks
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Posted Wednesday, March 16, 2011 @ 12:09 PM
Thanks for the photos, Bob. Do you usually just toss the headset in the baggage area? I guess this also means that you have two sets of wires running inside the fuselage from the radio? I was hoping to avoid wire runs through the fuselage if possable, but it may be unavoidable.
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Dann Parks • RF4D #4051 N2188 • now flying!
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Posted Wednesday, March 16, 2011 @ 12:36 PM
Hi,
With the RF5B I normally don't use a headset. I just wired a 1/8" plug and use MP3 head phones. I am later planing on a boom mike.
A unmuffled RF4 headset is a must. Dann's mufflers are going to help a lot. I store the headset by the stick. Once buckle in I can not reach them if they are in the baggage compartment.
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Jorgen
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Posted Wednesday, March 16, 2011 @ 06:03 PM
Hi,
I agree headset(especially the cables!)handling in the 4 is a challenge, I constantly wrestle with mine but you get somewhat used to it. I have the jacks just under the GPS on its separate mount to the right (see panel pic) of the panel. The cables hang in a circular loop down towards the stick and constantly irritates my right arm, especially the plastic straps I STILL haven´t changed. The RF 4 cockpit is deafening, I use a custom Peltor ANR headset (it's got the thinnest headband I know of, and is a Swedish brand) AND earplugs underneath and I am still bothered by the noise. Dan, I follow your muffler project closely!
In the RF 5b the noise levels are far lower, partly because it is equipped with a good muffler, but also because you don´t sit with the VW in your lap as in the 4. I still use a headset, partly to hear intercom/radio chatter better but mostly because of comfort. I want to be able to hear Sofi´s soprano when she sings- take care of your ears, Fournieteers!
May the 4´s be with you/ Jörgen
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Bob Grimstead
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Posted Thursday, March 17, 2011 @ 09:25 PM
Hi Guys,
HDO's wires to the headset jack sockets run in parallel with the antenna wire, just under the sill, along the left side of the cockpit.
You can see them at bottom right in this photo.
By tie-wrapping those wires to the antenna wire (which was already there as an original Fournier fit) I do not need to make any more holes in the airframe (an important structural consideration).
I shortened the headset wires when I fitted the ANR kit, so that I do not have a loop of wire flopping around in the cockpit.
When not in use, the headset (mounted in a helmet for negative-G tolerance) lives on the floor ahead of the main spar on the left, so that I can get in and out of the cockpit unuimpeded.
Yes, the RF4's cockpit is noisy (as you can tell from my recent in-cockpit GoPro footage) so like Jorgen, I wear ear plugs and use Peltor headsets (because of the thin over-head band, and because they are so light).
I didn't know they were Swedish, but they are extremely well designed, and ideal for my purposes, so I have them in all of my aeroplanes, and I only wish that British Airways had used them rather than the awful, useless Sennheisers we had to wear.
Yours, Bob
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Flying and displaying Fournier RF4Ds VH-HDO and G-AWGN, building replica RF6B G-RFGB and custodian of RF6B prototype F-BPXV
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