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Posted Thursday, December 17, 2009 @ 05:25 PM  

Since beginning of November the connection project for two wing halves has progressed a little bit, I will hopefully get the wood work done before end of January. In the attached link few pictues from past weeks, I will update some more once a week or so.
The most difficult part is already done (spar repair), tomorrow I will start covering the D-box.
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http://picasaweb.google.com/markkuk04/OH380WingRepair#

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Posted Thursday, December 17, 2009 @ 06:41 PM  

Respect, Markku!

Impressive work you´ve done there and a beautiful spar repair. I´m curious about your scarfing tools if you´re updating your photopage. Are you using Epoxy Resin or some other 2-component glue?

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Posted Friday, December 18, 2009 @ 01:54 PM  

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. I´m curious about your scarfing tools if you´re updating your photopage. Are you using Epoxy Resin or some other 2-component glue?

May the 4´s be with you/ Jörgen

Thank's Jörgen, I have used just simple hand tools, first with cutter plane and belt grinder then finished with long straight board with grinding paper. The new repair pieces were finished with big belt grinder which was located in the workshop.
The glue is SP-106 epoxy with micro cellulose filler, I think this is more safer to use than the original resinol glue.
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Posted Friday, December 18, 2009 @ 05:48 PM  

Wow, Nice work.

Its amazing how simply a wooden aircraft can be repaired to like new condition.

I don't think you can fix Carbon or Metal Spars as easily or as strongly without a lot more work.

No wonder these Fourniers just live on and on forever it seems, as long as there are enthusiasts who
pass on their skills and knowledge to the newbie's in forums like this one.

Thanks for taking the time to document the photos of your progress and pass it along to us.

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Posted Tuesday, January 5, 2010 @ 06:08 AM  

Some new pictures are updated to Picasa. D-box is now cowered, and this week the wing will be released from the jig, trailing edge spar and ribs will be installed in lateral position.

http://picasaweb.google.fi/markkuk04/DBoxCovering?authkey=Gv1sRgCNbBvqS5g4DNkwE#

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Posted Wednesday, January 6, 2010 @ 02:30 PM  

Markku:

Great pictures and wonderful job.... you really show how to make major wing repairs. The more information, the better.
I am just starting my wings I find your pictures extremely helpful.... a million thanks!!
In the next month (or so) I plan to remove the fabric and make any repairs needed to my wings...
Please continue to keep us informed as to you progress and how you solve the many problems/ challenges associated
with getting your aircraft back in the air. At every turn there are choices to be made.. and it is really helpful to see how other
pilot/owners solve them.

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Posted Thursday, January 7, 2010 @ 06:40 AM  

Thank's for comments, this forum has been very helpful for all of us, thank's for Collin and all. I will update the picture folders in future when the work is progressing.
I noticed, that there is something wrong with linking the web-album, there should be two albums visible.

Ihope this will work:

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Posted Wednesday, February 17, 2010 @ 08:31 AM  

Some new pictures just updated to Picasa, trailing edge and upper plates are done, about 0,5 m2 plywood is still to be glued before wing wood work is finished.

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Posted Thursday, February 18, 2010 @ 04:36 PM  

Kyllö Markku,
thanks for sharing, I find it very encouraging to see your progress. Very neat work, you should be very proud of it!

May the 4's be with you/ Jörgen

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Posted Tuesday, March 16, 2010 @ 04:24 PM  

Thanks Markku:
Could you please give me some more information regarding the tailing edge of the wing... you can see in my post (more wing repairs and LED Anti-Collision Beacon) with pictures that there was some deforming perhaps due to too tight fabric, anyway, I am thinking of replacing some of the trailing edge material for a better line and fit. Can you tell me what materials you use for your trailing edge repair, wood? glue? and the boat varnish? Will any varnish work or should it be a specific type? Also the glue... what works best and do you know if it is the same as originally used in the FR-4? Sorry for so many questions, but based on your experience, you are much more the expert... thanks, Robert Brock
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Posted Tuesday, March 16, 2010 @ 05:32 PM  

Hello Bob
The trailing edge structure is quite simply. There is a hard balsa bar between ribs and a formed pine or spruce bar in the end of ribs, trailing edge is cowered on both sides with 1mm birch plywood. the original glue is Resorcinol ( Aerodux?), but I have used in repair SP-106 epoxy with micro cellulose filler (my plane will be in experimental category, and I prefer epoxy)

http://www.gurit.it/Files/Documents/English%20Datasheets/SP%20106_v10.pdf

It might be enough if you replace the plywood skin in the trailing edge.
If you can give your e-mail address, I can send you some more detailed info tomorrow

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Posted Tuesday, March 16, 2010 @ 08:23 PM  

Dear Markku:
My email address is: Bob.Brock@gmail.com
Since the birch plywood is only 1mm thick, should if just sand it off?? Or is there another way, such as cutting the glue joint with a sharp blade and trying to lift it off?
Thanks again for your assistance...
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Posted Thursday, March 18, 2010 @ 05:36 PM  

Dear Markku:
A million thanks for the drawings, .pdf files and more pictures. I am making the wing dolly now and will have some work done very soon. Thanks again for your insight/experience... Bob Brock
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Posted Wednesday, September 15, 2010 @ 01:15 PM  

Hyvää Markus,
I was admiring your amazing woodwork again, when it struck me: have you tried to adjust the "factory built in roll to the right?"

Please don´t reply: "-Oh shit, I forgot..."

May the 4's be with you/ Jörgen

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Posted Thursday, September 16, 2010 @ 01:19 AM  

I hope that it was fixed, and I can leave the aileron trim flap away
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Posted Tuesday, August 30, 2011 @ 02:17 PM  

Some update after the wing wood repair. The engine was overhauled last autumn, 1400cc cylinders were changed. I was guided by my club mate who is experienced to VW-motors

Base engine ready

Fuselage, tailplane and fin were cowered last winter, note the simply stand for the fuselage, easy to rotate the fuselage during cowering and painting (still needs some kind of locking mechanism for paint work)


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Posted Wednesday, August 31, 2011 @ 12:22 PM  

Very impressive work on your wings. A tribute to your immense patience and skills. And nice work on the fuselage and engine, too. It will be a beautiful ship!

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Posted Friday, December 16, 2011 @ 08:42 AM  

Some update to my project
Wing surface preparation and cowering
I had some problems to adjust the airbrakes operating symmetrically, the control system was erected poorly in the factory (torsion tube distances were not the same in left and right wing), and it cost me some extra time and headache.
After the brakes were adjusted close enough, the wing was grinded, partly filled with epoxy/microballoons, and grinded again, I designed a dolly for easing the wing handling, it's posible to rotatae the wing alone, big help in the cowering work.
The wing is now cowered and protected, waiting for the painting next spring

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Posted Saturday, January 7, 2012 @ 06:52 PM  

Beautiful work, Markku!

This winter is sofar remarkably mild here, but I guess you still have temperatures unsuitable for painting. I can't wait to see your paintwork!

I did a Fournierflight yesterday, the field was so waterbogged it was a real challenge to get in the air. I wanted to do some Aeros, but noticed that I had scooped up a considerable amount of water from the wheelwell which sploshed around under my knees, so I didn't turn upside down- I didn't want to get wet!
My pal who is a glideraero instructor once had missed out on cleaning the tandem ASK 21 during preflight, so when they turned upside down a lot of water sploshed around inside the canopy. "-It's him or me!" my pal thought and made a quick decision. You might guess in whose lap the water ended up...

May the 4's be with you/ Jörgen


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Posted Sunday, January 8, 2012 @ 09:19 AM  

Yeah, I did the same with my son in our RF5 at Gap after all that rain.

Buckets-ful of water went up into the canopy during a slow roll.
I don't have the skill to aim it, so it just came down all over us!
We laughed. :-)

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Posted Thursday, January 12, 2012 @ 11:33 AM  

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Beautiful work, Markku!

This winter is sofar remarkably mild here, but I guess you still have temperatures unsuitable for painting. I can't wait to see your paintwork!

I did a Fournierflight yesterday, the field was so waterbogged it was a real challenge to get in the air. I wanted to do some Aeros, but noticed that I had scooped up a considerable amount of water from the wheelwell which sploshed around under my knees, so I didn't turn upside down- I didn't want to get wet!
My pal who is a glideraero instructor once had missed out on cleaning the tandem ASK 21 during preflight, so when they turned upside down a lot of water sploshed around inside the canopy. "-It's him or me!" my pal thought and made a quick decision. You might guess in whose lap the water ended up...

May the 4's be with you/ Jörgen

[Edit by Jorgen on Saturday, January 7, 2012 @ 06:53 PM]

Thank's Jörgen
The paint work will wait for the next spring when it gets warmer, the weather in Finland is quite the same I suppose, some records were broken with the December rain volumes, we got in some areas 190mm WATER during the month.
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Posted Monday, April 15, 2013 @ 05:36 AM  

Some update to the project
Since the previous mail some progress have been done, not as much as I wanted and presumed in late 2011.
Airframe was painted white last summer, I did it by myself with some technical help from my uncle.
I got a feeling, that the painting was more difficult task than the wing repair

Wing was relatively easy, because I sprayed all the layers, no bigger problems, just a lot of time (8 layers of dopes and the top coat)

The fuselage was a nightmare, because I have rolled the dopes last winter, and the surface was not good for polyurethane top coat (pinholes etc.).After three times of top coat the fuselage surface is good enough.

Cocpit is painted this winter, grey base colour with white and black dots. I made also new side panels and backrest, coated with blue plush (some small customizing, original twisted side panel visible on the floor)

Cockpit assembly is now going on, few weeks ago I tested the engine mounts, baffles and cowlings together, most of the baffles I need to make new



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Posted Monday, April 15, 2013 @ 07:11 AM  

Markku,
that's a thing of pure Beauty, thank's for sharing those pictures! I've been thinking the same about painting, working the surface up to a smoothness that won't show any irregularities when the high gloss paint goes on is a huge undertaking. Will you paint in the original colour scheme?

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Posted Monday, April 15, 2013 @ 07:26 AM  

Thank's Jörgen
It's not the original white, it's Randolph Juneau White, I think the original is whiter. I got the paint from a guy who bought it for his Citabria, but changed the colour scheme later. I will paint the blue trims this summer, that should be close to original factory shade.
The scheme will be the original as made in factory, I have taken the dimensions from Antti's plane.

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Posted Wednesday, September 4, 2013 @ 05:28 AM  

Some new pics from past summer, blue trims are now painted, I tried to get them as close the original scheme as possible
Markku

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Posted Wednesday, September 4, 2013 @ 05:18 PM  

Markku,
I honestly got tears in my eyes from looking at your absolutely stunning job! Imagine another
Blue Fournier ("Ford Electric Monza Blue" is it?) in the skies soon, looks fantastic in the original scheme.
Í expect you to be 5-10 mph faster than the rest of us, remember- you don´t have the drag of ailerons and rudder fighting the factory biúilt roll to the right. Marvelous work, well done!

May the 4's be with you/ Jörgen

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Posted Thursday, September 5, 2013 @ 04:07 AM  

Thank's Jörgen
I'm now really relieved, when the painting work is done. It could be better, but I'm quite happy with the result, because it was my first painting job with air brush.
The blue shade was taken from Antti's new factory painted spinner, it,s also obviously the same shade as Finnair used in their previous livery.
I hope that I can give some reports of the flying characteristics next summer
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Posted Thursday, September 5, 2013 @ 12:26 PM  

Beautiful work Markku.

It will be so good to see another Fournier back in the sky where it belongs.

Well done.

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Posted Thursday, September 5, 2013 @ 12:45 PM  

Hi,

Looks Great! I really like the blue and the gray numbers. I was thinking of blue or green when I redo mine.

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Posted Sunday, June 29, 2014 @ 11:25 AM  

Hi Markku,
I found this homepage which explains a good deal of why the determination and skill of wooden aircraft building has such a strong tradition in Finland.
Although this fighter got into production a bit late in the war the design is interesting with a lot of wooden parts.

http://www.vlmyrsky.fi/en/21

On a side note I see that the pictures in this thread has changed shape (turned bigger so you can't read the text without scrolling the screen sideways),
just as I have had problems with in some of my threads. I suppose you use Image Shack?
Image Shack does not seem to be a stable picture hosting site and I've switched to Photobucket which (touch Wood) seems more stable.

May the 4's be with you/ Jörgen

P.S. I'm anxiously awaiting your future flight reports from one of the few (only?) tabless RF 4s out there.....DS


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